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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
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direhuman

me explaining to the other trainers that apricorns are unknown outside of Johto because of deliberate suppression by the Silph and Devon corporations to present artificial pokeballs as the only means of capturing pokemon and establish regional monopolies after they eliminate renewable sources

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(via @itsbenedict)

itsbenedict

eternalfarnham replied to your post

you’re in the pocket of Big Ball, I see

there’s no pocket for me to BE in, there’s no LOBBYING involved, there’s no SUPPRESSION campaign because you don’t need one! traditional methods suppress themselves when you make modern pokéballs available. you might as well start accusing AT&T of deliberately suppressing the noble traditional art form of the goddamn semaphore.

not to mention OP demonstrates a total lack of understanding of the market realities of the pokéball industry- Silph and Devon are not monopolies, if they weren’t in constant competition their magic monster domination spheres wouldn’t cost two bucks a pop. the ball spec is a public standard, and Bill Masaki’s storage system based on that standard is an open-source project. they’re only the two largest players because they’re able to leverage economies of scale. you still get smaller operations like the Laverre City Poké Ball Factory, with better regional supply chains and local brand recognition, making room for themselves in the market. 

sm FUCKING h at y’all granola-crunching conspiracy theorists. you probably also believe Super Potions cause autism.

justisdevan

Ok, but it is a shame that artisanal balls are basically off the market now. Like, you have to ride the monorail and hike through a half dozen routes just to find someone willing to sell you a Fast Ball. Believe me, when your boss at the power plant needs five Electrodes by Tuesday you are not going to want to make the trip to Alola; you’re going to head on down to the Mart and get some Ultra Balls, which will do the trick but aren’t well tailored to the job.

I’m with you that modern catching techniques are better, not to mention more humane, but there genuinely is a loss from more niche balls becoming harder to find. Maybe someday the long slowpoketail of consumer demand will be met, but I wouldn’t hold my breath for that Shellder.

cetaceanhandiwork

look y’all are missing the point. mass production of silph balls crowding out traditional apricorn craftsmanship is, if anything, more a side effect of the real problem: that capture artifacts are too easy to get your hands on these days. $2 basic balls are a problem. before modern ball tech you had to go to an artisan, yes, but part of their job was to care about who had the power to recruit pokémon from the wild, as a backstop against another Knight of Veilstone coming along. there was a time when you’d never lay a hand on a ball yourself until it was clear you respected pokémon, whether tame or in the wild. but now, a “pokémon journey” is open to practically every teenager, even if they’ve got not interest in treating their team with trust and love.

the worldwide rise in the last century of organized crime and apocalyptic cults who use pokémon as their muscle is a direct result of capture artifacts becoming a mass produced market commodity rather than a mechanism for preserving the sacred trust between humans and the wilderness. it’s a miracle that the powder keg hasn’t already gone off by now.

eternalfarnham

Oh that is rank historical revisionism - what, do you think artisans’ definitions of “respect” were constructed in a vacuum? We already had rhetoric as far back as the warring states period in Ransei about how only the soldierly classes, overwhelmingly descendants of nobility and taught from birth, had the intangible qualities necessary to “bond” with Pokémon. And when we start seeing apricorn balls develop in Johto, which borders Kanto - Kanto, where we know there’s been extensive cultural cross-contamination with Auroran and Dragnoran expeditions - surprise, suddenly only a small population has the intangible qualities necessary to use them, too.

That notion was, and remains, a tool to limit general access to Pokémon in the interest of maintaining class disparities. I mean, have we already forgotten the Aether Foundation’s pseudo-conservationist nonsense? Their attempt to manipulate natural resources and establish a power base in Alola, while they were modernizing and taking their place on the world stage, was founded on this exact rhetoric of “rescuing” Pokémon from local disenfranchised populations, as if taking Pokémon away from places like Po Town would improve things instead of increasing competition between trainers and decreasing safety.

Do you want more disillusioned kids joining gangs? Because that’s how you get Teams!

sindri42

Artisanal balls and anyone who supports them are tools of the aristocracy to suppress the common folk. In the days when a ball could only be made by hand by an expert, only the wealthiest could afford pokemon, and as a result anyone not born into the “elites” was forced to be subservient to their “betters” for protection.

The release of the $2 pokeball meant that the balance of power shifted to the common citizens. If any child can wield the power of a god, the military and the government and the wealthiest businessmen have no power over them.

More than that, instead of power being determined by the wealth to acquire pokemon, power comes exclusively from the dedication, effort, and empathy required to train them to high levels and to maintain their loyalty. If a person simply buys their pokemon, then those pokemon will either stay at low levels forever, or refuse to obey the human because there is no respect between them; the most powerful people in the world are those who caught a critter at level 2-5 and then devoted their life to raising it into a world power.

And as a beautiful side benefit of this, standard of living has increased across the board. Since every household has at least one minor pokemon in the family and there are increasing numbers of professional, working pokemon joining cities and other civilized areas and working to improve them, every aspect of economy and industry has been enhanced by their supernatural capabilities. Electricity is generated cleanly and in abundance for everybody. Pollution is cleaned up almost completely and instantly. The production of farms, mines, and workshops is multiplied, even as safety standards improve. Yes, every few years another potential apocalypse comes about and needs to be prevented by a couple of brave teenagers, but outside of those incidents the world is damn close to utopia.

6qubed

…that was all fascinating to read and I would like to see more like it, please


for instance; what the hell is in lemonade that makes it a more powerful healing alternative to regular potions

suinicide

Opium

lemondorp

See, unlike in the real world, the Pokémon world has yet to ban cocaine in drinks.

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r4cs0

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Lol

beardedmrbean

The entire musical for Hamilton is out there too, can't forget that

northerlygale

Vikings: Valhalla also made Haakon Sigurdsson, a real historical figure and ruler of Norway, from a white man to a black woman. They swapped race and gender to be more diverse

summer-fruits-and-cream

Okay pocahontas was a bad example I can't think of a character whose race was more pivotal to their story. And I strongly reject the idea that changing the race of a white character versus a non white character is the same, which seems to be the implication here

But these tags. These tags are very good

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cardassiangoodreads

These are good points but I think it’s unlikely people are going to want to stop making period films and TV about famous white historical figures. The thing is, this is already the practice in theater, that POC can play white roles freely, you can have women play Hamlet, whatever, so I don’t see why we can’t apply it to film too. I think some examples, like Queen Charlotte, do toe the line in that they’re based on a specific racist pseudohistorical account of Charlotte being black (she wasn’t) and risk legitimizing that, but I think Bridgerton could have presented things a little differently and been fine and, honestly, after a certain point it’s kind of on the audience if they’re taking history lessons from a show based on romance novels, a show that is often gleefully and deliberately anachronistic in other ways.

Where the OP example is stupid is that yeah, obviously, whitewashing POC roles is a different story and not the same thing, and it’s such a reflexive, no-thought-put-in-whatsoever approach to compare them. Especially in the case of stories like Pocahontas’ where her race is kind of important to her character, but also because as long as we still live in a world where white people are preferred for not only white roles but roles in general, it’s denying POC actors an opportunity to whitewash their roles, as well as, in the case of historical figures, whitewashing history.

You can’t approach this shit in a vacuum, like it’s purely about abstract principles. You have to take real world power relations into account.

The fact that their post (given the example chosen) is also likely motivated by being upset by the casting in Little Mermaid, where the protagonist is a mythological character is, also 🙄

Also incredibly ignorant to not recognize that white people playing POC (often in black/brown/yellowface) was the status quo in Hollywood for decades. (And it is still depressingly common in, say, opera.) The movement away from that is actually extremely recent.

r4cs0

That's a helluva lot of words just to say "it's OK when they do it"

cardassiangoodreads

I mean if you’re not very smart and don’t put much thought into these things, I can see why it looks that way!

r4cs0

No yea. I can tell you're hella smart, specially considering it's not that deep and could be literally boiled down to double standards and hypocrisy but no no, let's write a thesis to explain to these small brained mortals why I'm right and they're wrong.

cardassiangoodreads

I mean, I already explained why it isn’t “hypocrisy” or a “double standard” right here:

“You can’t approach this shit in a vacuum, like it’s purely about abstract principles. You have to take real-world power differentials into account.”

You haven’t come up with anything that engages with that or even demonstrates that you read/understood it. You’re just repeating the same shit where I’ve already explained why that’s wrong and is, frankly, demonstrating that you didn’t think about this too hard.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

r4cs0

I drawed you a picture with my small brain


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newplayingsmash

“You can’t approach this shit in a vacuum, like it’s purely about abstract principles. You have to take real-world power differentials into account.”

Translation: “It’s okay when we do it. Because reasons.”

r4cs0

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Tumblr now trying to hide it behind a "mature" label lol

autisticexpression

Colourblind casting has been around for ages. Look it up. There are photos from Victorian times of black actors playing Shakespearean roles like King Lear.

The principle is that many characters have no stated race of skin colour in the text. We assume in a predominantly white culture that these characters are white by default, but they don't have to be. Nothing about Ariel or King Lear or Hamlet requires them to be played by a white actor, so actors of any race or skin colour can play them. On the other hand, Othello is textually a black man, and the story of Pocahontas is impossible to separate from her identity as a Native American woman.

Casting a black woman as a prominent white historical figure like Anne Boleyn is pushing it, and probably done to generate attention through controversy, but I don't think having a few poc in the supporting cast of Mary, Queen of Scots is a big deal. The main characters are all white. You'll be okay.

The Bridgerton thing is also questionable, but a black Queen Charlotte is such a common misconception that I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt that the writers really believed it. These are the same people who apparently think regency ladies wore corsets. They did zero research.

The Cleopatra thing sucks because it was presented as a documentary. If they were doing Shakespeare's Cleopatra, it would be fine because Shakespeare's plays are highly fictionalized.

Vikings is garbage when it comes to historical accuracy in general. You should've complain about seeing a black woman if you're okay with Norsemen with undercuts wearing black leather fetish gear.

It's a nuanced issue, and if you take the rigid reductive stance that every character should be played by the same race forever, people are going to think you're ignorant and stupid. Race is not an objective reality. It's a completely artificial construct. Would you get this anal about hair colour? Or nationality? Would you care if a white character played by someone of German descent in the original was played by someone of Polish descent in remake? I'm almost certain you would not.

Actors should be cast based on their ability to play a cheracter as written first and foremost. Their look is of secondary importance at best.

r4cs0

Yeah I ain't reading all that but it's hilarious you think I'd take a lesson in anything from the mother fucking retard who jumped to Hitler's defense:


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Lmao

disgruntled-neighborhood-wife

AE getting dunked on is always worth it

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vamprisms

streaming companies will say um we're increasing your subscription fee. no password sharing. no screenshots allowed. please subscribe to a separate channel for this movie and another for this tv show. free trial but put in your card details so we can charge you if you forget to cancel. this title is a rental only that's 4.99 please. this title is not available in your region. you are begging people to torrent at this point Like ye are off the edge of the map matey here there be pirates argh argh argh 🦜☠️

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phantomrose96

We should talk more about what a dick move it is to name horror movie villains regular-ass people names.

Michael Meyers? Dick move. How many thousands of Mr. Michael Meyers are out there every day meeting people going "Ope! Haha Michael Meyers! Oh just don't kill me! Haha." Shut up. Meyers et al should kill you, and John Carpenter for causing this.

You know who did this right? Thomas Harris. Named his villain just the right inconceivable combination of sounds. I don't think there are any fucking Hannibal Lecters out there uncomfortably laughing off cannibal jokes in a job interview. And if there are, then I think they've got bigger problems coming from parents willing to name a squishy little baby Hannibal Fucking Lecter.

phantomrose96

reply pointing out that being named for a slasher villain gives you the best chance of internet anonymity.ALT

"Hannibal Fucking Lecter, you were named after the best chance at achieving internet privacy in the digital age because all attempts to search for you will be buried beneath three decades worth of horror movie discourse and an unspeakable amount of Hannigram porn."

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squaliformes

i’d like to point out that when i made this post, all of these comments were at the top, but now if you look at the thread they’ve been replaced by completely different comments 

so please, for the love of god, look at the source link this thread is a neverending source of entertainment. people have added so much fucking shit since i made this

anotheralexandros

I was proctoring an exam for a student today while reading these, and I had to stop because I got to this one and almost fucking died

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curlicuecal

these are making my day

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curlicuecal

Okay, this one’s killing me:

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thebabbagepatch

These ones got me:

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pbandjesse

Ooohhh noo I can’t breathe and there are literal tears streaming down my face

cricketcat9

Have a very, VERY good laugh people

borgevino

this post is missing the BEST ONE:

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headspace-hotel

Sleep deprivation is a HELL of a drug isn’t it

siryouarebeingmocked

Dressed, made brekky, and walked all the way to church.

On Saturday.

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patchoulism

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I won’t stop being an asshole to translators, do your job properly, you accreditationless duolingo piece of shit.

t. translator

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I want to kill myself.

ryo-maybe

Please PLEASE start being an asshole to translators so they never, ever do something this utterly unhinged

patchoulism

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Shit like this always come from wannabe-writers who can’t get published cause their writing is trash so they pull this kind of crap to feel β€œin charge”.

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stalker-among-the-stars

Gonna start using “Localizer” as a slur. Localizer, with a hard r, if you will.

someoneintheshadow456

I wonder how these people dealt with shit like Yashahime or Demon Slayer.

It’s possibly because of Americans throwing a tantrum that Yashahime is so sanitised compared to the original Inuyasha. FFS the romance is barely there and the new demons look like Tamagotchis.

And antis STILL found a way to get mad. It STILL wasn’t wholesome enough for them.

unpopularly-opinionated

This feels like a good time to mention that a localizer for Breath of the Wild took an innocent relationship between a grown man and a young girl (I’m talking like the sort of relationship a little girl and her teacher might have), and made it creepy and blatantly pedophilic.

So yeah, make fun of localizers.